That would mean that they are more powerful than namek goku which i refuse to believe. And we know that they are both much weaker than Cell-era SSJ2 Gohan. Sure. Maybe. She stomped vegeta so she wouldn't be scared of the kids turning ssj. Buu Absorptions= Buu+Absrobee. Freeza’s Transformations= Form x2. Goten and Trunks still haven't shown anything to put them on planet busting level let alone planet busting durability. 18 stomped vegeta and trunks when they were in ssj state. He barely struggled. Gohan wasn't that inexperienced when he fought Cell. This was partly due to the fact that Trunks is one year older and naturally exhibited a little more strength as a result. How powerful would you say goten and trunks exactly are? Big Sok • 7 December 2019 • User blog:Big Sok. Their fusion never actually fought buu until after ROSAT, where they were also a SSj 3 fusion. @pope052 , thoughts? Why does them = Namek Goku mean Goku cant launch nukes? When Goku first appeared in the original series, he was 12yrs old. I would say SSj trunks is atleast twice as strong as goku was when goku first entered namek mainly for what probably was filler about trunks in vegetas gravity room that was at 200 times earths gravity where goku was struggling under the 100x earth gravity when he was training to get their and goten is somewhere close to that level based on the world tournament. There are other factors that show a … You have to remember, Goten/Trunks were SSJ1 amazingly early. We also know this is Canon since Tarble is also mentioned in the later film "Battle of Gods". Also does this mean Goku Black is at least SSG power level? They were later in the series, this is a shonen, power increases down series. If you noticed when he showed up Whis and Beerus were surprised. He also wears a similar orange gi to Goku's, minus the kame symbol along with a dark blue long-sleeved undershirt and black training shoes with dark blue shin guards in the Majin Buu Arc. Fathers and sons face off against their rivals, Gohan & Goku vs Vegeta & Trunks POWER LEVELS. This is something i been wondering and been speculating about for months ever since i been rewatching the Buu Saga from DBZ. 400,000,000,000 After training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, said to be stronger than he previously was as a Super Saiyan (and at that time he was stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku) Fat Edit. Tarble says that Abo and Cado are "As strong as Freeza was". If so, Trunks and Goten have this one securely in the bag too. Goten/Powers, Stats, and Abilities < Goten. Age: Up to 30 minutes Gender: Male Classification: Saiyan-Human Hybrid, Metamoran Fusion If Goten and Trunks have a higher base power level than Vegeta and Trunks did during the Android saga, then they wouldn't need FPSS. Yeah sure. Besides we do not know how goku would have fared against 18. However, based on that they'd get no further than ranking them either equal to or slightly below Cell Saga Super Vegeta (as when #18 witnessed his power, she was much more intimidated and surprised than she was when she witnessed Goten & Trunks turn into Super Saiyans). 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Others 4 Discussions Trunks(トランクス) is a protagonist in theDragon Ballmanga, and the anime seriesDragon Ball Z, and Dragon Ball Super. Trunks is equal to Goku when he fought against Frieza on planet Namek, while fighting against Frieza's soldiers Trunks's power level only reads 5 on their scouters. Super Saiyan 2= Base x100. It was a secret kept more from the Saiyans, not from his own men. And I had made an argument of how frieza would be able to beat goten/trunks. The fusion only lasts for 30 minutes and using Super Saiyan 3 reduces this time to 5 minutes. The only people as of now that we know seen him transform that are still alive is the Z warriors. Super Saiyan 3= Base x400. Like - trivially losing to 18 to trivially dominating semi-perfect Cell level stuff, which is gigantic. Unless you want to argue that Mr Popo is on the same level as a Super Saiyan for blocking hits from the boys on the Lookout, who both went SSJ against him. Like i said we do not know how 18 would far against goku. Because we can compare feats right now and they are not even there yet i'd argue. What power? I do not add in amplified blasts as those feats are too inconsistent to mark. Super Saiyan Trunks: 100,000,000 (had to power down to match Goten for fusion) Super Saiyan Goten: 100,000,000 Fat Gotenks: 200,000,000 (their power didn’t really increase much but didn’t go down as Gotenks felt that being Fat was a way to regulate their power. Goten vs. Trunks. Can you show me trunks training in gravity? Powers and Stats. We also know that Birus says that he doesn't feel Goku could've beaten Freeza when seeing him in base form, which most likely means he was examining Goku's full base potential, which at the time of the Buu Saga was 60mil, half of Freeza's maximum. Plus Trunks training is way better since Vegeta trains him and he probably has to train everyday. Goten and Trunks seem to have their power levels as equals, due to Goten and Trunks requesting fusion through multiple moments in Dragon Ball GT. 150,000,000. So 5yrs after Buu Saga the difference wouldn't be that much Even my best conservative estimates put him at a highest of 70-72mil by the time of "Battle of Gods". And dont mention gotenks cause the guy said frieza vs trunks or goten, not both of them. Trunks and Goten were going all out while 18 was keeping herself restrained. This is the truth. Doubt it. Gotenks vs. Buu. Also Goku would lose vs 18, , Also, Trunks held back vs Goku, I would say SSj trunks is atleast twice as strong as goku was when goku first entered namek mainly for what probably was filler about trunks in vegetas gravity room that was at 200 times earths gravity where goku was struggling under the 100x earth gravity when he was training to get their and goten is somewhere close to that level based on the world tournament. Goten and trunks based on showcases are at the very least around android level maybe just maybe frieza first or second form level. Battle of Gods Arc Goku 1 x 10^502 (10 Sesexagintacentillion) MSSJ Goku 5 x 10^510 (5 Novensexagintacentillion) Goten 1 x 10^105 (1 Quattuortrigintillion) Hercule 6.6 Good Buu 1.5 x 10^189 (1.5 Duosexagintillion) Trunks 1 x 10^105 (1 Quattuortrigintillion) Goku vs Beerus (On King Kai Planet) Goku (Suppressed) 60,000,000 King Kai 3,500 Bubbles 1,000 Gregory 1,100 Beerus (Heavily … But by the time Buu rolls around, Goku and Vegeta are both many times stronger than Gohan was at Cell. 500,000,000,000 Can fight Mira (Suppressed to above Super Saiyan 3 Goku and Majin Buu) 50x Base 2nd Grade Super Saiyan Edit. Thats basically what i mean as well. Trunks is equal to Goku when he fought against Frieza on planet Namek, while fighting against Frieza's soldiers Trunks's power level only reads 5 on their scouters. @deathhero61: Using the wrong kind of debating. Super Saiyan Grade 2= Base x60. Fusion changes things. after the buu saga, powers are based on Theory and multipliers DRAGON BALL CLÁSSICO Contents . Goten or Trunks. The power levels for the non-canon GT, which follow Goku saying that Rilldo is "stronger than Buu" . They seem to be around Piccolo's or Trunks level. Cell Absorptions= … Fusion of Goten and Trunks through Fusion Dance. The two young Saiyans then fused and . Forms Super Saiyan. Both Goten and Trunks are stronger than both their fathers were during the Android Saga, as well as stronger than Gohan was at only 7 and 8 respectively despite no meaningful training. So my best estimates for these two are around Freeza's base level and Freeza's 1st form power. However, because the Fusion Dance requires near-equal, if not identical power levels of each of the fused individuals, Trunks had to lower his power level to match Goten's since his was slightly higher from being one year older. The two young Super Saiyans then fused and became Super Saiyan Gotenks. 8.1 Piccolo Jr. Saga. Maybe not even they can break through time and space dimensional portals and time travel so what if they don't even stand a chance against Goku Black? Legendary Of Saiyan Resident Neo 11 total posts: 3056 since: Jan 2014. He only saw Frieza at his base. BTW goten and trunks did not give 18 trouble. We also don't know how fusions are quantified, so we can't say for sure. She was trying to end the fight as quickly as possible due to the power they surprisingly had, and she likely wanted to end it due to how the area would end up in the result of their fight.She wasn't intimated at all when they went SSJ, why would she? That was in the World Martial Arts right? Anyway, the opponents he/she has beaten or fought well against must be considered over feats in order to justify power. Now, when they are okay to use, that's only when the said character hasn't beaten/fought anybody in order to put a label on his power so thus we'd reduce it down to feats, but if there is none, then that character is practically impossible to debate for. Goten and Trunks had the advantage over Gohan of being born as tailless hybrids, which gave them an incredible growth of power even above tailed hybrids, as well as making the ability to transform to Ssj for the first time very easy. So two Cell Juniors would probably either beat the two of them, or it'd be a really close match. Which may be to say that Goten and Trunks (as individuals) working together could take out Freeza. when i read it i see more surprise then anything about how powerful they are for their age and remember she hasnt really seen a supersayian fight for 7 years. These 2, while one was on top of another, gave Android 16 a fight in base form.When they turned Super Saiyan,18 started worrying about how Mighty Mask power level increased so much.When Trunks fired a simple Ki blast,18 crapped her pants at the blast coming at her.A simple Ki blast and these 2 kids got stronger in the ROSAT. And filler? @deathhero61: For the obvious fact that Namek Goku would get slaughtered by 18? They created illusionary doppelgangers to confuse the boys. So my best estimates for these two are around Freeza's base level and Freeza's 1st form power. they were hard pressed when fighting android 18. Goten vs. Trunks. 18 was holding back as per agreement and killing your opponent means instant disqualification. Edit. Actually they were struggling to beat ado and cabo. Base Edit. And a punch from them barely scratched her while one good strike from her had them struggling to get up. He has been doing that since the Piccolo junior arc. We also know that people who can sense Ki can feel the true ability of others, regardless if they are suppressing it, so long as they are near enough to feel their presence. These little guys have a huge advantage on Gohan in potential. I especially say this because goku was casually outperforming trunks who oneshotted an amped frieza, with a FINGER. Hard to say, but before I give my two cents on where i'd agree to rank them I must concur with @reaverlation, feats aren't to be considered in terms of judging the power and ranking of a Dragon Ball character to a certain point. Plus Trunks said otherwise that he was holding back and even then goku was still stronger. Assuming he did held back it woudn't matter, most people who are weaker than goku would have had a harder time blocking trunks full swing strikes, goku did it with a finger while trunks was in SSJ(which to be honest that alone proves trunks wasn't holding back) Goku already seemed to be far above everyone else and the only reason why he lost to android 19 is because of his heart disease, if it wasn't for that he would have stomped 19 in a few minutes due to gero only gathering data up to the saiyan saga. Needless to say, both Goten and Trunks have a lot of training to do before they can hit the same power levels as their dear old dads, fusion or no. Their powers developed much faster than Goku or Gohans. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Multipliers. Just maybe, ssj vegeta when he first appeared in the android saga but cell saga goku is really and i mean really pushing it. Super Saiyan= x50. The fact that she was "scared" of their blast was PIS considering 18 is supposed to be stronger than frieza the guy who blows up planets every other day when he was alive. Freeza only ever stated that King Vegeta never saw him transform. Get Anime Apparel here: http://bit.ly/AnimeCartoonApparel Use code meme for an Extra 5% discount ($49+)! For example, Tien's power level during the Trunks Saga will be around 70,000 and will … @vampiricshaman: "Naturally, it's a Super Saiyan bargain sale" I died. 10,000,000,000 Can fight Mira (Suppressed; Online) Super Saiyan Edit. Trunks and Goten are nowhere near Mirai Trunks nor Piccolo. 1 Emperor Pilaf Saga; 2 Tournament Saga; 3 Red Ribbon Saga; 4 General Blue Saga; 5 Commander Red Saga; 6 Fortuneteller Baba Saga; 7 Tenshinhan Saga; 8 Piccolo Daimao Saga. Goten/Trunks were, as much as I hate to say it, at least on par with Final Form Freeza each, and if not then very close to. @deathhero61: So obvious denial correct? So yeah, fusion is hella OP. 1.No. Unless you mean some how as in " you havent shown me why " and not " how could they get that strong" if you didnt mean the latter, my bad. Which may place Goten and Trunks around 1.5-2mil a piece. Tier: High 4-C. Name: Goten Origin: Dragon Ball. They needed the year long ROSAT training to surpass the androids (and Cell too lol)? If they were far above goku in every category then that would mean during the buu saga when they were going to where buu and the others were they would have caught up in half a second. I seriously doubt BOS DBS Goku couldn't take Frieza. She was surprised because her opponent was supposed to be a weak, pitiful human with no ability. Manga and Anime. Raditz vs Goku and Piccolo Farmer: 5 Raditz(Suppressed): 1,200 Piccolo(Weights): 322 Goku(Weights): 334 Gohan: 1 Chichi: 90 Piccolo: 322 Krillin: 206 Bulma: Frieza had it at 100% buff power, and SSJ Goku had it on Namek. Saiyan saga he was launching a blast equivalent to a planet buster. And as far as them being chumps, you must also realize that at this point in time, Goten and Trunks are 8 and 9yrs old respectively. Due to the ROSAT however, that may bring them close to Cell Saga Super Saiyan Goku's standard, but likely not equal to (and for the record, Super Saiyan Gohan wasn't stronger than Super Saiyan Goku at any point in the manga, as I saw somebody say that he was stronger here). And I wanted someone else opinion on this. both Goten and trunks have power level in the tens of millions they stomp terribly. They haven't shown that level of ki output. Goku and vegeta at their maxes were getting crushed by buuhan IIRC. I'm saying that Goten and Trunks turning SSJ is a Ki amplificationThe ki amplification argument in general is pretty baseless and if the best support you have is ToP Anime power-scaling inconsistencies (the ToP Anime is joked on for how poor Toei did its power-scaling), there's definitely a problem. Even at 18's PL, they could very well stomp buu depending on how well fusion works. There are dozens of examples of that, and it's been heavily discussed in the series. And the fact that weaker versions of herself and her brother were nuking cities as a hobby while barely trying. Saiyan. With that power level the SSJ goten and trunks have, you made them rival 100% form frieza in namek. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Furiza probably has the same level here as in the Namek saga. SO I USED THE MARVEL AND DC RULES. And what was shown may i ask? Trunks Special Android 17: 60,000,000 Android 18: 60,000,000 SS Gohan: 70,000,000 SS Trunks: 45,000,000: Here, the Android's power levels are based on the guesses from the Android saga. Comments. @deathhero61: No it isn't. Based on showcases. Use code memes for an Extra 10% discount ($99+)!Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/DBZMackyFollow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dbzmacky/Join the POWER LEVEL COMMUNITY's official Discord Server!https://discordapp.com/invite/ksP3QtGLet us know if you agree or disagree with the video, and discuss Power Scaling with us, for all Comics and Anime.Dragon Ball Super Power Levels and Dragon Ball Heroes Power Levels are all fan made and original, based on official power levels from the databooks, manga, anime and the daizenshuu guidebooks. @deathhero61: Zarbon knew, but never saw. The fact that she is supposed to be superior to frieza anyway negates this showcase entirely. Goten is Gohan's younger brother and Trunks' best friend. Goten's appearance as a child is very similar to Goku's childhood look, including messy, unkempt hair, same eye color, lighter-pale complexion and a playful face. Also it was clear to everyone that Freeza transformed after King Cold and his crew recovered Freeza's body. Abo and Cabo would be in their 30's or 40's at the least. Like i said the fight against 18 was pure downplay. We know that Goku and the rest of the Z fighters all suppress their power levels when they aren't fighting. He has also helped in giving Goku his energy, along with the help of Trunks and Gohan during the Baby Saga. Power Levels Beginning of Dragonball Z Raditz vs. Farmer. Their physical strength in comparison is garbage from what i seen, their speed is supposed to be way faster but all things considered they seem to be the slowest. Goten is a prodigy youngest Super Saiyan of all time and Trunks is the son of Vegeta. Gotenks is no older than Goten/Trunks, yet he obviously would slaughter mecha Freiza and future trunks. Vegeta also states that in the excitement of the fight that Trunks was forgetting his basic training. Around Ascended Super Saiyan Vegeta level to SSJ Goku (Cell Games) level. @reikai: I don't listen to those who use filler to back up their argument. Other powerful fighters in the series have had lightning at some point or another, without being SSJ2. They're likely close to her level. Their fusion at base proceeded to murder stomp buu. So Birus' estimations of Goku's ability at standard are not without merit. DBZ Power levels based of percentage I based these battles on what I view as power gaps. They are based on the facts that SSj3 is SSj2 x4 and SSj2 is SSj1 x2. You doubt they can bust the moon? @reikai: It had to be base level Frieze because Tarble wasn't around when Frieza transformed. But their fusion before the ROSAT was pretty quantifiable. Finally some new official power levels have been confirmed. Whether they meant Freeza's base (520k) or his final form (120mil) is ultimately never explained, or even if it was meant for when the two combined. Trunks is pretty much on Goten's level, just slightly stronger. 8.1 Piccolo Jr. Saga. Main article: List of Power Levels. There's no evidence Tarble ever met Freeza at all. @dratini1331: Yeah in their base while having that stupid mighty mask costume, they were able to fight 18 quite evenly. Gotenks is the Metamoran fusion of Goten and Trunks, formed to defeat Majin Buu. 5 Gotenks divided by 80,000,000,000 Fat And Skinny Have The Same Power Level. The legitimately only reason why he failed to beat 19 was because of his heart disease. If otherwise Zarbon wrecking Vegeta, Majin Buu stomping Adult SSJ2 Gohan/Supreme Kai, and any other occurrences would be labelled as plot induced stupidity, but it's really how the series goes about establishing their power. 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